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-DesireData's TODO list, $Id: TODO,v 1.1.2.28.2.63 2007/09/09 17:45:45 matju Exp $
-
-LEGEND:
-  [c] client
-  [s] server
-  [b] both
-
---- do those soon even though they're not in any milestone:
-[ ] update translation credits
-[s] encapsulate wires list
-[s] observable boxes list
-[s] observable wires list
-[s] gop filter
-[c] make List objects, to manage children, visible_children, wires, selection, selection_wires.
-
---- those should be only things that will not be in milestones 1,2,3, until the progress bar.
-[ ] Don't expand $0, $1, etc. in the struct name. (Jonathan Wilkes, 2009.09.14)
-[ ] t_canvasenvironment->path can break in externals that access it directly (because of the type of ->dollarzero).
-[ ] glerm says: backspace key problem in virtual keyboard
-[s] rewrite [any]
-[ ] right-click on an [s] or [r] would have an option "Find Matching Sends & Receives"
-[c] split View into several classes (why?)
-[s] [error]
-[b] look into race conditions and locking
-[s] take advantage of the support for zero-size arrays in gcc. (how?)
-[s] make t_hash thread-safe (use external iterator)
-[c] figure out what to do about the existence of [$self look] vs ordinary attributes (pointer_sense= and such)
-[b] localise error messages
-[s] new parser for nested lists and extended symbols
-[s] remove more duplication of adc vs dac (see s_audio_*.c)
-[s] [route] should be reconfigurable and accept pointer
-[s] [select] should accept pointer
-[s] [moses] should be multi-arg (and be aliased to [range] ?)
-[s] get rid of stderr in server
-[ ] pd-extended's [tcl_version]
-[c] -path and -helppath listbox entries should be draggable (so that up/down buttons can be removed)
-[s] finish merging 0.40 (wasn't it finished?)
-[s] merge 0.41 (no?)
-[s] merge 0.42
-[s] refcounted symbols
-[c] redesign auto-apply so that it works without conflict with Ok/Cancel buttons
-[c] simplify def Dialogue add
-[b] rewrite [image], [display], [knob], [grid], [popup], ...
-[s] merge martin peach's tcp externs into the core
-[ ] sync pd.gif with pd_32.gif
-[s] inheritance: [super] "instantiates" other abstraction with same $0; [self] allows sending messages to self; [declare super ...] makes the tree.
-[ ] cleaner parsing of [expr]... remove int type because it causes e.g. [expr 8.0 / 10.0] = 0 but [expr 8.0/10.0] = 0.8
-[ ] how does [declare -stdpath] work? this is a mystery. can't get it to work in pd 0.40.
-[ ] tidy_up/snap to grid
-[c] change the order of the fields in Properties if it makes things more logical than the order of fields of savefn
-[b] too much duplication of inlets vs outlets in source (where?)
-[b] [t a] could be a very small GUI object (called "null object")
-[b] all the [t] could be GUI objects
-[b] GUI objects for [inlet] and [outlet] and [pd] ([page])
-[-] make a dd-extended
-[s] SymbolBox could support dnd
-[b] http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2007-10/009581.html
-[s] what to do with post() in case of -nogui ? (it fills an ever-expanding buffer, does it?)
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-[c] "can't read $@inchannels0" error in server prefs when there is no sound card.
-[c] clicking on an object does not do Open.
-[c] <Return> in Completion shouldn't finish the object.
-[c] is pd_mess_split correct? e.g. does it handle \\; properly?
-[c] make [display] look distinctive (not confusable with ObjectBox)
-[c] correct the dozen problems you can see by using visual_diff on all_guis_and_gop.pd
-[ ] help files for: [parse], [unparse], [clipboard], [display], etc.
-[s] recreate abstr instances after abstr save
-[s] [bng] messages get duplicated upon entering a subpatch???
-[s] counter-test.pd shows [nbx] jamming the update queue if too many updates at once...?
-[s] queue priorities cause double call to changed() to change the expected order of updates (dangling pointer in client)
-[c] Ctrl+e doesn't change Edit menu entry; likewise for visual_diff
-[c] implement dirty flag (Save Changes? Save Changes? Save Changes? Save Changes? Save Changes? Save Changes? Save Changes?)
-[s] canvas_resortinlets confuses wire upload
-[s] should do canvas_resortinlets after moving objects
-[s] writesf_free has deadlock.
-[s] [netsend] is unreliable: buffer too full drops chunks of messages, not at message boundaries
-[b] colorised console with hyperlinked error messages
-[c] numbox: is_log
-[c] [hradio] : chg -> is_log
-[c] [vu] props : scale should appear instead of is_log
-[s] update s_audio.c to support any number of devices (not just max 4)
-[c] new way to do View get_canvas
-[c] def Menuable raise {} {wm withdraw $w; wm deiconify $w
-[b] GOP problems are back due to recent changes in canvas_map and canvas_vis.
-    now that abstractions don't get loaded into the client anymore, GOP can't always be drawn anymore too.
-     i mean, because the content of GOP is not uploaded to the client, so the client can't draw anything about it..
-     unless def View outside_of_the_box are moved to the server side and the server only uploads what needs to be drawn
-     for gop
-
-     another side effect of not uploading the content of [pd]/abs that i just found out is that, when deleting such object,
-     1. the client won't be able to perform things like $wire deconstruct in def Canvas del,
-        as the object don't exists in the client side
-     2. even if client don't call things like that, the server would still send -> delete message to the client,
-        which causes the same error because the object don't exists...
-
-[s] it might make sense to always upload subpatches but upload instances only when needed
-[s] serial got sent too early when creating [pd] with push & #N canvas (http://pastebin.ca/318318)
-[s] prevent hidden subpatches/abstraction-instances from being loaded in the client all of the time.
-[b] fix gop
-    [c] reimplement View get_canvas so that it does not rely on [focus]
-    [s] gop contains can be drawn if not uploaded to client
-[ ] fix deleteing/closing Canvas
-    [ ] server sends -> x806a3b8 delete twice
-    [ ] fix deletion order
-[ ] graphical array rendering optimisation
-[ ] fix double delete of [pd]; this is because [pd] is both an object in a patch and a patch itself, and "subscribe" doesn't distinguish.
-[s] added "version 2" syntax parser (optional), which has nested lists,
-    extended quoting, extended float syntax
-    (some ex-symbols now parsed as floats: +1 +1.0 +1e8 0x10 and so on.)
-[ ] atomically with multiple level
-
-[ ] PureUnity
-    [ ] benchmark
-    [ ] signals
-    [ ] grids
-    [ ] transitive, antisymmetric, predicate
-    [ ] contracts : *-rule.pd
-    [ ] tests for the frameworks' own components?
- * not finished:
-   [glue-test]
-   [comparators-test] [arith-test]
-   [operator1-rule] [operator1-test]
-   [operator2-rule] [operator2-test]
-
-[s] those are the externs that have to be recompiled if I want to trap calls to return values of getfn.
-  ./externals/olafmatt/clone/clone.c:544:    mess1(&cv->gl_pd, gensym("dsp"), sp);
-  ./externals/grill/dynext/src/main.cpp:952: mess1((t_pd *)canvas,const_cast<t_symbol *>(sym_dsp),NULL);
-
-[c] proc netsend doesn't escape newline... what else doesn't? which other chars need an escape fix?
-
-[s] allow helpfiles to load without having to "make install".
-[s] MIDI loopback pseudo-device (inside pd)
-[s] audio loopback pseudo-device (inside pd)
-[s] use vector doubling in binbuf_add,binbuf_addv...?
-[c] opening an already-open subpatch should just raise that subpatch
-[c] hide inlets/outlets of IEMGUI when they have receive-symbols/send-symbols
-[c] rightclick help doesn't work on [cnv]: tries to find help for "cnv.pd" ???
-[s] creating a graph causes crash.
-[b] fix NumBox's height (box size follows font size) or just remove that setting
-[b] fix NumBox's width (missing some fudge)
-[b] fix std::map's apparent trouble getting exit() done properly
-
-Implement (or fix) Find:
-    with ability to search across canvases:
-	[ ] all canvases
-	[ ] all subcanvases (including invisible)
-    [ ] with regexps
-    [ ] with replace
-[ ] in hsl-help.pd, [hsl] shouldn't appear as a Radio.
-[ ] canvas dialogue:
-    [ ] add option for old-style GOP
-    [ ] make hidetext work
-    [ ] add units/pixel
-[c] array button doesn't work (menuarray)
-[c] implement timeout in def Manager call
-[s] proper symbol quoting
-[c] patching-in-tongues follow-up
-[c] skip unneeded motion events inside client (do we need this?)
-[b] rename pd to pd-server, desire.tk to pd-client, add new program "pd" which would launch both (will we really do this?)
-[b] #V test with bg color
-[c] kill global tooltip variable ?
-[c] iemprops: min,max labels broken
-[b] fix the [key] and [keyup] and [mouse] (?) classes
-[s] fix all issues with backslashes and braces.
-[c] implement def Canvas tidy
-[c] set tk::mac::useCGDrawing 1
-[c] differential download (property dialogues autoapply)
-[c] differential redraw
-[b] improved dirty_lists including proper array support
-[b] bang counter (instead of sending every bang message to client)
-[b] implement garray
-[c] implement a mark-and-sweep in order to find leaks... (?)
-[ ] this seems fishy but might have good ideas -> http://www.rebelscience.org/Cosas/Reliability.htm
-[c] make a statistical profiler for Tcl, if possible
-[c] try to use profiler.tcl (tcllib) in a sensible way
-[s] try C-oriented tools:
-    [ ] oprofile (with GUI)
-    [ ] memprof
-    [ ] sysprof
-    [ ] kprof
-    [ ] gprof
-    [ ] prospect
-
-[s] iirc, bang~ registers a timer callback. the problem is that the timer callbacks are only executed every dac block,
-    which is 64 samples. so running bang~ in subpatch with less than 64 samples, bang~ sets the same timer several times,
-    but it's only executed once.
-
-[b] think about this «if you are reconsidering properties panels, I strongly encourage all y'all to make them Pd patches.
-    This is how Max/MSP does it and I think it would work very well for Pd as well.  Sounds like this is a good opportunity
-    to make the switch.» -- hcs
-
-<chun> 1. a keyboard operated cursor, a bit like Active, but one can use it like the mouse pointer
-<chun> 2. snap to grid feature, or similiar 
-<chun> 3. prefix keybindings, like M-x in emacs
-
-Iohannes said about redirecting stdout/stderr:
-  pd -verbose -stderr 2>&1 | while read line; do echo "${line};" | pdsend 6666 localhost udp; done
-
-[b] [struct], scalar, DS-array, [plot], [drawpolygon], [drawnumber], ...
-[c] desire.tk can be *really* loaded without Tk
-[c] make commandline options reloadable at runtime
-[x] canvas scrollbars auto-disappear when not needed.
-[s] use gensym2() in builtin classes and stuff.
-[s] fix 64-bit arrays so that carmen gets a use for DD.
-[s] carmen also needs strings (no symbol leakage)
-[c] right-click on labels for translations.
-[b] http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Diff
-[c] solve printing problems with GDB. use a pty (pseudo-teletype) ---> http://wiki.tcl.tk/3916
-[c] try TkZinc
-[c] try Tcl/Gtk (Gnocl) with emulation layer
-[?] http://www.comparisonics.com/gallery.html
-[c] obiwannabe writes:
-    it would be good to have the choice as a comandline arg of the first one launched with a way
-    to accept patches to open in the same instance from, say a web browser. Like also when you are
-    in a file manager and browsing some .pd files you really want them to open in the same running instance.
-[s] must work with ALL gridflow samples
-[b] objectbox argument completion
-[b] messagebox completion
-[c] tooltips on arguments/inlets/outlets
-[c] option to make non-gui objects appear on a GOP (?)
-[b] multilingual labels in objects
-[b] multilingual comments
-[b] what would be needed to be able to use gdb --pid=... ?
-[ ] set tk::mac::CGAntialiasLimit 2
-[ ] try Doxygen's callgraphs
-[ ] try splint (http://www.splint.org/)
-[ ] try uno
-[ ] try CCCC
-[ ] try OSX Shark
-[ ] try http://www.drugphish.ch/~jonny/cca.html
-[-] do we move the trac to artengine or not?
-[c] remember that it's possible to use break in a bind-handler, to completely override system's behaviour.
-[c] try: itcl itk iwidgets (itk implements megawidgets)
-[c] try tkgate, a hardware sim program
-[ ] try libentity
-[c] try vtk-tcl
-[s] make sure $0 actually works (see canvas_realizedollar)
-[c] test rcv_able, snd_able
-[?] iem: snd/rcv problem(s) ? (what was that?)
-[c] [vu] have fcol in props !
-[c] [vu] has snd in props !
-[b] Duplicate wires?
-[c] Can connect object to an object that is inside a GOP (!!!!)
-[c] weird offset stuff when there are negative canvas coords sometimes.
-[s] Bug: bad quoting in sys_mgui()
-[b] Bug: spaces in name of vslider cause corruption of properties (devel_0_37)
-[b] classlist: add method signatures
-[c] bang flash delays should be reimplemented
-[c] pdrc_options radio don't load/save
-[c] patch window may open off-screen (all branches)
-[c] patch window may open too big (all branches, osx)
-[b] properties on objectboxes (generic dialogues tapping into method signatures) (?)
-    [s] hooks for outsourcing the preceding stuff to a plugin (eg: GridFlow, PyExt)
-[b] [graph] is too slow (gui) for real big arrays
-[b] VT100 colours in console ?
-[b] freeform comments (no atom parsing)
-[b] preserve whitespace in textboxes?
-[b] inlet inspector to show what are the message types expected by an inlet
-    that could read like "int: set left operand; bang: do it"
-[c] custom buttonbars (including premade objects with args like a [t b f] and such)
-    [c] with configurable hotkeys
-[b] coloured wires
-[b] insert_object makes error with multiple selection.
-[c] popup_properties on multiple selection.
-[b] segmented patchcords:
-    [c] a hotkey to click on the cord, and add a new segment
-    [c] a hotkey to drag the "points" (where two lines meet)
-    [c] a modifier key to delete a segment (actually the others should be that way too)
-    [c] you should be able to right click on a regular wire, and press "segment" or do a hotkey with it
-        and it automatically turns it into an straight-elbow multisegmented wire
-[s] symbol vs strings: Ruby is right: the Symbol vs String distinction is annoying and possibly obsolete.
-    according to me, symbols exist mostly because LISP had them before they had strings, and because most
-    Strings implementations aren't powerful enough to be as fast (or almost as fast) as Symbols.
-    (well, for compatibility reasons, just like in Ruby, we can't remove symbol support completely, but
-    at least we can reduce the difference between strings and symbols to a minimum.)
-[b] server-side IEMGUI could be turned into Tcl-based externs OR EVEN become abstractions.
-    it's possible to make a DesireData GUI for any Pd class, including abstractions.
-    to turn IEMGUI into an abstraction, what's missing is the savefn/saveargs/scanargs business.
-[s] I would like to know how much it is feasible to compress the t_atom structure so that even with 64-bit pointers the t_atom
-    still stays 8 bytes instead of 16. I think it's possible, but not necessarily in a
-    backwards-compatible way, and not necessarily in a portable way. also maybe it's not that useful.
-[c] splashscreen: we could make it different than other programs by inserting the splashscreen
-    inside the main window or we could make it a separate window but no timer, just an [OK] button,
-    so actually, this would be exactly the same as the "About" dialogue.
-[s] turn [makefilename] into something that doesn't suck. (alias it to [sprintf] or [format])
-
-[b] data inspector: when this tool is enabled, it prints on the console any data coming through whatever cable you
-    currently have selected. if you select multiple wires, it reports whats going through multiple wires.
-[b] you need a way to see cpu usage on individual objects or on patchers or on groups of selected objects
-[c] objectbox history: see whether ddrc should have a history count entry;
-    think about saving history; matju thought that it could be turned into a dynamic button bar that you can drag from.
-[?] send to front, send to back
-[c] make windows not get auto-resized to the width of the toolbar, so that people can have tiny windows.
-[c] <Dossy> fconfigure -encoding binary ...
-[s] implement the stuff that is in iostreams.txt
-
-[c] hcs implemented "recent files..." in devel.
-
-[c] Luke Iannini suggests some OSX bindings:
-    Command-` to switch between different windows within the application.
-    Command-, to bring up preferences (though this one is more difficult since there are multiple preference windows...)
-    Command-m to minimize the window (this currently brings up the "send message" dialogue box)
-
-[s] Claude:
-    Sending a message to vline~ creates a t_vseg, which are stored in a
-    sorted linear linked list, which means the time taken to add each new
-    line segment would be O(n), where n is the number of existing line segments.
-
-[-] look at some object sync protocols that we can think of: NFS for folders, palm sync for calendars, rsync for file contents
-
-[s] look at auto-vectorisation and figure out which versions of GCC really can do it (and not crash!)
-
-Marius Schebella:
-I have a small keyboard shortcut wish: change between "entering mode" and "selected mode" with boxes.
-when I create a new object/message... then it would be nice to have a
-shortcut that switches from the mode, where the cursor is in the box to the
-mode, where the object is selected. I think the tab-key could be used for
-that. As it is now, I type something in, then I have to grab the mouse, then
-klick, then select, then I can adjust it (which I also do with the keyboard,
-because it is more precise).
-I know the toggeling will not be possible when more objects are selected,
-but maybe someone has an idea for that.
-
-[c] command for unpatcherizing a subpatch or abstraction (useful for making variants)
-    or for turning an abstraction into a subpatch.
-
-[s] I fixed it now, but I don't know if this is not a bug in pd 0.40:
-
-"The problem is, that canvas-local search path really tread each path as local to the canvas-path ( see line 1561 in g_canvas.c).
-So if you add e.g. /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iemmatrix, it will search for this path, but local to the canvas path - so if I started
-Pd from /home/me it will search in /home/me//usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iemmatrix ! Is this a feature or a bug of Pd ?" -- Holzi
-
-[s] "I don't quite understand how this explains why wrap~ of -1 returns 1." -- steffen
-[s] there's a [wrap~] but no [wrap]. there's a [>] but no [>~] (without externals). -- matju
-
-dmotd about converting patches to postscript:
-"the internal pd postscript printer grabs the viewable canvas size,
-this would need to change to encompass the virtual limits of the patch.
-tcl/tk's 'canvas postscript' command takes the -width -height flags,
-so making it the virtual bounds is trivial. this works for snapshotting
-canvas bounds:  sys_vgui("set cnv_bbox [.x%x.c bbox all] \n  .x%x.c
-postscript -file /tmp/canvas.ps -width [lindex $cnv_bbox 2] -height
-[lindex $cnv_bbox 3]  \n ", canvas, canvas);
-
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-
-Patching-in-tongues Project
-
-[ ] make entries counter and matcher.
-
-               entries
-en: english    [    ]
-es: español    [    ] Mario Mora & Ramiro Cosentino
-de: deutsch    [    ] M Neupert, G Holzmann, T Grill
-nb: bokmål     [    ] Gisle Frøysland
-it: italiano   [    ] Davide Morelli + Federico Ferri
-pt: português  [    ] Nuno Godinho
-fr: français   [    ] Patrice Colet
-ca: català     [    ] Nùria Verges
-pl: polski     [    ] Michal Seta
-eu: euskara    [    ] Ibon Rodriguez Garcia (Enrike Hurtado)
-cn: chinese    [    ] Chun Lee
-jp: nihongo    [    ] Kentaro Fukuchi
-tu: türkçe     [    ] ... Koray Tahiroglu
-sv: svenska    [    ] ... Daniel Skoglund (NOT FOUND)
-br: brasiliano [    ] ... Gabriel Menotti
-dk: dansk      [    ] ... Steffen Leve Poulsen
-
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-Dec 18 2006
-
-1. there's no way to limit the size of the output buffer. If the other
-side of the connection doesn't respond, the sending buffer just
-inflates quickly. I've seen it happen that a bug in the sender causes
-it to try to send so fast that it ate memory like an infinite recursion
-or a forkbomb.
-
-2. That operation is not realtime-safe (but still it's much closer to
-being so than just blocking...)
-
-3. It's only usable by the GUI socket and never by [netsend].
-
-4. While that buffer together with t_guiqueue allow GUI updates to be
-delayed for as long as necessary, it doesn't solve the problem that it can
-send information that is already outdated and redundant. This can be
-important in preventing problem #1 for a very heavy GUI. DesireData has
-had this problem essentially dealt with since a long time, but it lacks
-some fine tuning to get more robust.
-
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-
-<arjen> matju, you may be interested in "Jim" - that does have closures and on the Wiki you can find several attempts and
-        experiments regarding closures: http://wiki.tcl.tk/closures
-
-<matju> is there something like listbox but which works as a popup menu ?
-<tclguy> tk_optionMenu is an old-school version
-<tclguy> or get a combobox from BWidget or tile
-
-1. wish8.5 desire.tk city.pd &> err
-2. ctrl+e, ctrl+a, shift+right*3 (or just once if profiling)
-3. times (tclx)
-
-<matju> is there a wrapper for libagg for tcl? AGG of antigrain.com
-<ijchain> <kbk> don't know of one, but SWIG, Critcl, or ffidl might plug the gap
-
-[initbang] & [closebang]: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=478072&aid=1544041&group_id=55736
-
-[s] Ed Kelly <morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk> reports that ALSA 24-bit output does not work?
-
-to dave griffiths: I think that this is three feature requests:
-1. performing replacement of wire-object-wire by a single wire, as a
-single operation in the GUI
-2. make that operation atomic in terms of DSP recompilation.
-3. break down DSP recompilation in pieces so that it is more "incremental"
-for large patches.
-In the case of object insertion, (2) and (3) are not implemented either,
-but step (1) already has most of the desired effect; for the message
-system, step (1) is all that is needed. DSP is more work and I know less
-about DSP. It'll take me a while to get there; but (2) doesn't seem so
-hard.
-
-http://www.tomsawyer.com/gallery/index.php
-
-[b] matju to atwood:
-  If I had automatic positioning in DesireData, it would be as an option: e.g. objects could default to "floating around"
-  (that is, automatic positioning), but be pinned down into specific positions. In that case, an exception has to be done
-  for [inlet] and [outlet] objects mostly. (the DS subsystem should be skipped over as well...) I could also have a use
-  for some semi-automatic repositionings: for example, there could be a keyboard shortcut to reposition a non-"floating"
-  object wherever it would go if it were floating, and if the user doesn't want it s/he can Ctrl+z it.
-
-http://www.graphdrawing.org/
-
-<mamalala> you select a bunch of objects and group them together .... then you can select all the objects in that group
-later, if needed, by its name like, you start to build some mixer patch .. and then you add a chain for an external fx,
-so you can put all associated objects in the "ext.fx" group ... whenever it gets so messed up that you forgot what is
-what, you can just select the groupt you want, and see/move/whatever the involved objects the group name could also act
-as a template for the name of a subpatch, if one decides to finally put them into one ....
-
-#--------#--------#--------#--------#--------#--------#--------#--------#--------
-interface wishlist from timvets (2008 Feb 17)
-
-Hello,
-here's my current Pd GUI wishlist, things that could streamline my work 
-flow, things that don't seem logical to me...etc:
-
-I wish:
-[ ] going in and out of edit mode was reflected by the cursor turning into a hand or arrow immediately,
-    not requiring the user to move it first, who, if newbie, can get confused if he/she hasn't moved the mouse.
-    (this is the case on some versions I use in class, specifically pd-extended OSX I think)
-[ ] shift-click-and-drag on a number box would also work after you already clicked.
-    Another idea: ctrl-click-drag to increment in steps of 10 or 100.
-[ ] home, end, shift+left/right, ctrl+left/right, ctrl+shift+left/right would work within object boxes just like in a text editor.
-[ ] click+drag a single object or messagebox wouldn't automatically activate text entry mode but the object itself stays the selection,
-    so that you can move it again or use arrow keys for repositioning without having to deselect+reselect first.
-[ ] for a multiple connections facility, to connect all outlets of object a to all inlets of object b, and variations on that.
-    (I think max has had this for a while, and maybe desiredata ?).
-[ ] 'subpatcherize'
-[ ] that when deleting all text in a comment and clicking outside it, the comment would be deleted, so that if you save the patch,
-    close it, and reopen it, there doesn't appear the word 'comment' everywhere you left a 'blank' comment this way. Alternatively
-    it could become 'comment' upon finalizing an empty comment, so that you can still see, select and delete it.
-[ ] the file browser (openpanel/savepanel) would support keystrokes to navigate: alt+up one dir up, tab to toggle focus between text
-    entry and graphical area (where folders and files are displayed)...etc
-[ ] opening the filebrowser wouldn't cause the Pd main window to pop in front of all the patcher windows after it is closed.
-[ ] one object could be finalized by clicking the outlet of another object, so that you can immediately connect it. The extra click
-    outside the object to finalize it first is unnecessary. When I click the outlet of another object, it is obvious that I am done
-    typing the name of the current one.
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-marius schebella 2008 Feb 17
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-Hi,
-this list is great! I would like to add the one again that I posted 
-yesterday (sorry for double posting, but this thread subject is better)
-
-[ ] when only one object is selected and you start typing (any other than 
-arrows) it should be possible to write into the object without an 
-additional click into the object. I often use ctrl+d to duplicate an 
-object and then arrow keys to place it on the canvas, and then I would 
-like to just start typing into the object.
-[ ] when there is more than one object selected and I click into one 
-object, but do not drag, then that object could switch to type-entry 
-mode. right now I have to unselect all objects by clicking into the 
-canvas and then click into the box to start text entry.
-[ ] exiting entry mode with enter would actually be nice, too. (for 
-messages cr could be shift+enter (the cr is overwritten anyway).
-[ ] more actions could be triggered by keyboard shortcuts?
-[ ] the alt click and drag function. you click on an object and as soon 
-as you start dragging that object is duplicated, but at the same time 
-you already have the new object at the cursor position and can place it 
-fast at a new spot.
-
-I want to point out that in many cases this would mean different 
-behaviour between clicking, and clicking+dragging.
-
-plus new: keyboardshortcuts to bring the pd window to the front (to 
-watch console output.
-[ ] and also change the cursor to arrow when you hit the command key to 
-imply that clicking on messages or numbers has different behaviour (play 
-mode) when you hit apple (or ctrl on win/lin?).
-
-marius.
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-http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2009-05-30/logs/2009-05-30_08.33.25_linux_ubuntu-intrepid-i386_pd-desiredata_run-automated-builder.txt
-s_audio_oss.o s_audio_alsa.o s_audio_alsamm.o s_midi_alsa.o s_audio_jack.o s_midi_oss.o
-
-http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2009-05-30/logs/2009-05-30_08.11.32_linux_ubuntu-hardy-i386_pd-desiredata_run-automated-builder.txt
-s_audio_oss.o s_audio_alsa.o s_audio_alsamm.o s_midi_alsa.o s_audio_jack.o s_midi_oss.o  
-
-http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2009-05-30/logs/2009-05-30_06.48.53_linux_debian-lenny-powerpc_pd-desiredata_run-automated-builder.txt
-s_audio_oss.o s_audio_alsa.o s_audio_alsamm.o s_midi_alsa.o s_audio_jack.o s_midi_oss.o  
-
-http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2009-05-30/logs/2009-05-30_06.48.53_linux_debian-lenny-powerpc_pd-desiredata_run-automated-builder.txt
-s_audio_oss.o s_audio_alsa.o s_audio_alsamm.o s_midi_alsa.o s_audio_jack.o s_midi_oss.o  
-